CCQM meeting of the working groups CAWG, NAWG, and PAWG
PTB Berlin
This meeting includes the autumn meeting of the individual CCQM working groups CAWG, NAWG, and PAWG, followed by a joint meeting of all three working groups as well as the stakeholder workshop "Towards standardisation of pathogen measurements".

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08:00
Registration on site
Please get your name tags and meeeting documents prior to the start of the meeting.
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NAWG meeting: Session 1 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
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Introductions (‘tour de table’ for those present, with online participants providing name and institution in the chat box). Agree agenda Agree minutes NAWG18– review action listSpeakers: Jim Huggett, all
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General update on recent activities: K176, Good news storiesSpeakers: Jim Huggett (NML@LGC), all
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PAWG meeting: 1st Session - Miniworkshop Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
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Welcome and introductions of participantsSpeaker: Claudia Swart (Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt)
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IDMS for proteins and peptides: historical development and approachesSpeaker: G. O'Connor (PTB)
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Insights from the use of solution calibrants from three metrology institutes for the measurement of urine albumin via IDMSSpeaker: H. Tan (HSA)
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Use of protein internal standard and its influence on the overall uncertaintySpeaker: A. Green (NIST)
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10:30
Coffee Break
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NAWG meeting: Session 2 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
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CCQM-K189 INDEL/SNV
Update on study progress
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CCQM-K181/P227 SARS-CoV-2 RNA copy number quantification
Update on Draft B. KCRV, DOE and CMC claims
Speaker: NIM
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PAWG meeting: 2nd Session - Miniworkshop Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
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Quantification of troponin using protein or peptide-based calibratorsSpeaker: M. Öztug (TÜBITAK)
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Calibration of RMPs with peptides Vs recombinant proteins: the example of procalcitonin and pTauSpeakers: A. Boeuf (LNE), C. Giangrande (LNE)
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Quantification of tHb in matrix with peptide and protein as calibrators: experience from CCQM P201Speaker: Y. Liu (NIM)
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Discussion and recommendations
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12:30
Lunch Break
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CAWG meeting: Session 1 Room 305 (Observatorium)
Room 305
Observatorium
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Welcome and register, Confirm/Appoint Rapporteur, Agree agenda, Review minutes and actions, Spring 2024 meetingSpeaker: Julian Braybrook (NML@LGC)
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P205 “Enumeration of membrane intact E.coli”Speaker: Boqiang Fu (NIM)
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P197 “Proliferative stem cell number per unit area”Speaker: Nilofar Faruqui (NPL)
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P222 “Particle enumeration for cellular analysis”Speaker: Yuki Kuruma (NMIJ)
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NAWG meeting: Session 3 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
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Orthogonal study
Proposed study
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SARS KC
Update on proposed study
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RNA Lipid Nanoparticles (LNPs)
Update on proposed study
Speaker: NIST
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PAWG meeting: 3rd Session - Comparisons Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
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Follow-up investigations HbA1cSpeaker: Q. Liu (HSA)
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CMCs based on CCQM-K177Speaker: C.-B. Arsene (PTB)
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Update on CCQM K186/P238Speaker: C. Brauckmann (PTB)
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Update on CCQM K115d/P55.2dSpeaker: G. Martos (BIPM)
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Fire drill exerciseSpeakers: G. O'Connor (PTB), J. Melanson (NRC)
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15:30
Coffee Break
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CAWG meeting: Session 2 Room 305 (Observatorium)
Room 305
Observatorium
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P217 “Quantification of fixed mononuclear cells in suspension”Speakers: Deepa Rajagopal (NIST), Sumona Sarkar (NIST)
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Assessment of current work programme; new Pilot studies, Key Comparison studies. DiscussionSpeaker: all
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NAWG meeting: Session 4 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
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CCQM NAWG Bio CMCs /Review
Update on BioCMC review process
Review BioCMC 2024-25
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Food task group
Update and questionnaire
Speaker: INM
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PAWG meeting: 4th Session – Task groups Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
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Update task group on food
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Task group ISpeaker: R. Josephs (BIPM)
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Task group IISpeaker: C.-B. Arsene (PTB)
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Task group IIISpeakers: L. Wu (NIM), M. Ryadnov (NPL)
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Closing for the daySpeaker: Claudia Swart (PTB)
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Welcome Reception
Fingerfood and Drinks
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08:00
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CAWG meeting: Session 3 Room 305 (Observatorium)
Room 305
Observatorium
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1) Review of CAWG Strategic plan and National needs identified at last meeting; identification of cell metrology opportunitiesSpeaker: all
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NAWG meeting: Session 5 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
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CCQM-P231: Species specific meat composition determination of DNA extracted from meat
Overview of Pilot background, protocol samples & aims
Results summary & draft report/publication discussion
– Material 1
– Material 2
Update on study
5 minute participant presentation of results & MU calculations (reporting slides can be found here https://bit.ly/3ArlmOF )Speaker: TÜBITAK
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PAWG meeting: 1st Session – scientific presentations Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
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Discovery of pharmabiotics from human gut microbiomeSpeaker: D. Kang (KRISS)
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Absolute quantification of active protein by SPR and digital ELISASpeaker: L. Wu (NIM)
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Structure related measurementsSpeaker: M. Ryadnov (NPL)
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10:30
Coffee Break
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CAWG meeting: Session 4 Room 305 (Observatorium)
Room 305
Observatorium
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2) Review of CAWG Strategic plan and National needs identified at last meeting; prioritization of cell metrology opportunitiesSpeaker: all
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NAWG meeting: Session 6 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
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CCQM-P231: continued
5 minute participant presentation of results & MU calculations (reporting slides can be found here https://bit.ly/3ArlmOF)
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CCQM-K86.d DNA Ratio in a High Protein Matrix
Update on Draft. KCRV, DOE and CMC claims
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P232 Fire drill
Update on study report
Speakers: NIST, NML@LGC
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PAWG meeting: 2nd Session - scientific presentations and digitalisation Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
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Characterization and Quantification of Monoclonal Antibodies by IDMS and ES-DMA-CPCSpeaker: W. Mi (NIM)
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Use of the digital expertSpeaker: D. Hutzschenreuther (PTB)
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Digitalization experience in protein measurement in NIMSpeaker: L. Wu (NIM)
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12:30
Lunch Break
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CAWG meeting: Session 5 Room 305 (Observatorium)
Room 305
Observatorium
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3) Agreement on Next steps; Wrap-upSpeaker: all
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NAWG meeting: Session 7 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
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Potential topics/Planned activities KCs/pilots
Planned studies measuring bacterial nucleic acids
ctDNA SNV KC
eDNA
SOGAT, sequencing activities
ISO/CLSI updateSpeakers: KRISS, NIB
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PAWG meeting: 3rd Session - strategy Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
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StrategySpeakers: Claudia Swart (PTB), all
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CMC GuidelinesSpeakers: Claudia Swart (PTB), all
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Uncertainty evaluation issuesSpeakers: L. Wu (NIM), all
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15:00
Coffee Break
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NAWG meeting: Session 8 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
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Wrap up
Review GANTT chart chart timelines
Strategy document/RMO questionnaire
Future meetings, workshops, etc.
Review actions
AOBSpeaker: all
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PAWG meeting: 4th Session - planning and other issues Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
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Planning of upcoming workshopsSpeaker: all
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Update of VAMAS projectsSpeaker: M. Ryadnov (NPL)
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Update of regional and NMIs’ metrology activities (ACRM,APMP......)Speaker: all
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Other issues, wrap up and closing of the meetingSpeaker: Claudia Swart (Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt)
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Transfer to the conference dinner venue: Transfer to the confernce dinner venue by public transport
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Conference Dinner: Boat trip
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Joint meeting of the bioanalysis working groups: Session 1 Observatorium (Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau)
Observatorium
Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau
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Introductions (‘tour de table’ for those present, with online participants providing name and institution in the chat box). Agree agendaSpeaker: WG Chairs
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CAWG UpdateSpeaker: Julian Braybrook (NML@LGC)
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10:30
Coffee Break
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Joint meeting of the bioanalysis working groups: Session 2 Observatorium (Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau)
Observatorium
Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau
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NAWG UpdateSpeaker: Jim Huggett (NML@LGC)
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PAWG UpdateSpeaker: Claudia Swart (Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt)
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12:30
Lunch Break
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Joint meeting of the bioanalysis working groups: Session 3 Observatorium (Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau)
Observatorium
Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau
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Joint workshopsSpeaker: Claudia Swart (Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt)
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WG support for RMOs, wider RMO interaction, QuestionnaireSpeaker: Mojca Milavec (NIB)
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SOGATS (WHO comparisons)Speaker: Jim Huggett (NML@LGC)
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15:00
Coffee Break
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Joint meeting of the bioanalysis working groups: Session 4 Observatorium (Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau)
Observatorium
Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau
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Fire-drill update and wider pandemic TGSpeaker: Julian Braybrook (NML@LGC)
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Task group on units for bioanalysisSpeaker: Jim Huggett (NML@LGC)
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CCQM Task Group on Food Measurement
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CCQM activities on Digital and FAIR Chemical and Biological Reference Data and Certificates: Challenges and OpportunitiesSpeaker: Robert Wielgosz (BIPM)
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Wrap upSpeaker: WG Chairs
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Welcome: Welcome addressConvener: Prof. Dr. Tobias Schäffter (Head of PTB Berlin Institute)
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Workshop "Towards standardized pathogen measurements": Session 1 Lecture Hall (Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau)
Lecture Hall
Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau
Convener: Dr Esmeralda Valiente (PTB)-
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Quality assurance and standardization in molecular diagnostics of infections - Results from international IFCC surveysSpeaker: Prof. Dr. Parviz Ahmad-Nejad (Helios Universitätsklinikum Wuppertal)
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Ensuring accuracy in the development and application of bioanalytical diagnostic tests for infectious diseaseSpeaker: Dr Jim Huggett (NML@LGC)
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10:25
Coffee break
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Antimicrobial susceptibility testing of veterinary pathogen bacteria: possibility and needsSpeaker: Dr Heike Kaspar (BVL)
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Workshop "Towards standardized pathogen measurements": Session 2 Lecture Hall (Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau)
Lecture Hall
Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau
Convener: Dr Megan Cleveland (NIST)-
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Protein reference material development for increased confidence in COVID-19 testingSpeaker: Dr Bradley Stocks (NRC)
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Advanced molecular diagnostics for the detection of high risk pathogens: exploring new technologies for scalable, rapid, on-site pathogen detectionSpeaker: Dr Andreas Puyskens (RKI)
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Boosting Accuracy in Viral Load measurements with a Powerful Duo: Isotope Dilution Mass Spectrometry and Digital Droplet PCRSpeaker: Yan Yan Beer (PTB)
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Standardisation of Genome Amplification Techniques (SoGAT): current challenges in harmonising measurement for NAT based diagnostics
online
Speaker: Dr Neil Almond (MHRA)
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12:55
Lunch break
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Workshop "Towards standardized pathogen measurements": Session 3 Lecture Hall (Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau)
Lecture Hall
Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau
Convener: Dr Bradley Stocks (NRC)-
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Challenges in standardized pathogen identification and quantification in patient samplesSpeaker: Prof. Dr. Udo Reischl (INSTAND)
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The challenges in preparation of control materials for small inter-laboratory comparisons: case studies of MPXV and Listeria monocytogenesSpeaker: Dr Alexandra Bogožalec Košir (NIB)
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Reliable quantification of control samples for the virus genome detection to assess laboratory performance in EQA schemesSpeaker: Dr Annemarie Martin (GDB)
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Synthetic Nucleic Acids as Reference Materials for Emerging VirusesSpeaker: Dr Megan Cleveland (NIST)
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Workshop "Towards standardized pathogen measurements": Final discussion Lecture Hall (Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau)
Lecture Hall
Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau
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Technical tour: Transfer from PTB Charlottenburg and Visit at BAM and Beamline in Adlershof Berlin Adlershof
Berlin Adlershof
Abfahrt 8:30h ab PTB Berlin CharlottenburgConvener: Rudolf Schneider-
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Departure at PTB Berlin Charlottenburg, Bus transfer to Adlershof
Luggage can be stored at BAM
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Visit to BAM labs: Protein Analysis, Immunoanalysis/Molecular Biology, Biophotonics, Chemical and Optical Sensing
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Visit to BESSY II Electron Storage Ring, PTB beamline, BAM line and Metrology Light Source (PTB)
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12:30
Lunch break Berlin Adlershof
Berlin Adlershof
Lunch buffet at BAM
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