CCQM meeting of the working groups CAWG, NAWG, and PAWG
PTB Berlin
This meeting includes the autumn meeting of the individual CCQM working groups CAWG, NAWG, and PAWG, followed by a joint meeting of all three working groups as well as the stakeholder workshop "Towards standardisation of pathogen measurements".

-
-
08:00
→
09:00
Registration on site 1h
Please get your name tags and meeeting documents prior to the start of the meeting.
-
09:00
→
10:30
NAWG meeting: Session 1 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
-
09:00
Introductions (‘tour de table’ for those present, with online participants providing name and institution in the chat box). Agree agenda Agree minutes NAWG18– review action list 30mSpeakers: Jim Huggett, all
-
09:30
General update on recent activities: K176, Good news stories 1hSpeakers: Jim Huggett (NML@LGC), all
-
09:00
-
09:00
→
10:30
PAWG meeting: 1st Session - Miniworkshop Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
-
09:00
Welcome and introductions of participants 15mSpeaker: Claudia Swart (Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt)
-
09:15
IDMS for proteins and peptides: historical development and approaches 25mSpeaker: G. O'Connor (PTB)
-
09:40
Insights from the use of solution calibrants from three metrology institutes for the measurement of urine albumin via IDMS 25mSpeaker: H. Tan (HSA)
-
10:05
Use of protein internal standard and its influence on the overall uncertainty 25mSpeaker: A. Green (NIST)
-
09:00
-
10:30
→
11:00
Coffee Break 30m
-
11:00
→
12:30
NAWG meeting: Session 2 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
-
11:00
CCQM-K189 INDEL/SNV 30m
Update on study progress
Speaker: NIM -
11:30
CCQM-K181/P227 SARS-CoV-2 RNA copy number quantification 1h
Update on Draft B. KCRV, DOE and CMC claims
Speaker: NIM
-
11:00
-
11:00
→
12:30
PAWG meeting: 2nd Session - Miniworkshop Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
-
11:00
Quantification of troponin using protein or peptide-based calibrators 25mSpeaker: M. Öztug (TÜBITAK)
-
11:25
Calibration of RMPs with peptides Vs recombinant proteins: the example of procalcitonin and pTau 25mSpeakers: A. Boeuf (LNE), C. Giangrande (LNE)
-
11:50
Quantification of tHb in matrix with peptide and protein as calibrators: experience from CCQM P201 25mSpeaker: Y. Liu (NIM)
-
12:15
Discussion and recommendations 15m
-
11:00
-
12:30
→
13:30
Lunch Break 1h
-
13:30
→
15:30
CAWG meeting: Session 1 Room 305 (Observatorium)
Room 305
Observatorium
-
13:30
Welcome and register, Confirm/Appoint Rapporteur, Agree agenda, Review minutes and actions, Spring 2024 meeting 30mSpeaker: Julian Braybrook (NML@LGC)
-
14:00
P205 “Enumeration of membrane intact E.coli” 40mSpeaker: Boqiang Fu (NIM)
-
14:40
P197 “Proliferative stem cell number per unit area” 10mSpeaker: Nilofar Faruqui (NPL)
-
14:50
P222 “Particle enumeration for cellular analysis” 40mSpeaker: Yuki Kuruma (NMIJ)
-
13:30
-
13:30
→
15:30
NAWG meeting: Session 3 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
-
13:30
Orthogonal study 1h
Proposed study
Speaker: NMIA -
14:30
SARS KC 30m
Update on proposed study
Speaker: NML@LGC -
15:00
RNA Lipid Nanoparticles (LNPs) 30m
Update on proposed study
Speaker: NIST
-
13:30
-
13:30
→
15:30
PAWG meeting: 3rd Session - Comparisons Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
-
13:30
Follow-up investigations HbA1c 30mSpeaker: Q. Liu (HSA)
-
14:00
CMCs based on CCQM-K177 20mSpeaker: C.-B. Arsene (PTB)
-
14:20
Update on CCQM K186/P238 20mSpeaker: C. Brauckmann (PTB)
-
14:40
Update on CCQM K115d/P55.2d 20mSpeaker: G. Martos (BIPM)
-
15:00
Fire drill exercise 30mSpeakers: G. O'Connor (PTB), J. Melanson (NRC)
-
13:30
-
15:30
→
16:00
Coffee Break 30m
-
16:00
→
18:00
CAWG meeting: Session 2 Room 305 (Observatorium)
Room 305
Observatorium
-
16:00
P217 “Quantification of fixed mononuclear cells in suspension” 40mSpeakers: Deepa Rajagopal (NIST), Sumona Sarkar (NIST)
-
16:40
Assessment of current work programme; new Pilot studies, Key Comparison studies. Discussion 40mSpeaker: all
-
16:00
-
16:00
→
18:00
NAWG meeting: Session 4 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
-
16:00
CCQM NAWG Bio CMCs /Review 1h 30m
Update on BioCMC review process
Review BioCMC 2024-25
cycle nominations process -
17:30
Food task group 30m
Update and questionnaire
Speaker: INM
-
16:00
-
16:00
→
17:30
PAWG meeting: 4th Session – Task groups Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
-
16:00
Update task group on food 20m
online
Speaker: C. Portesi (INRIM) -
16:20
Task group I 20mSpeaker: R. Josephs (BIPM)
-
16:40
Task group II 20mSpeaker: C.-B. Arsene (PTB)
-
17:00
Task group III 20mSpeakers: L. Wu (NIM), M. Ryadnov (NPL)
-
17:20
Closing for the day 10mSpeaker: Claudia Swart (PTB)
-
16:00
-
18:30
→
20:00
Welcome Reception
Fingerfood and Drinks
-
08:00
→
09:00
-
-
09:00
→
10:30
CAWG meeting: Session 3 Room 305 (Observatorium)
Room 305
Observatorium
-
09:00
1) Review of CAWG Strategic plan and National needs identified at last meeting; identification of cell metrology opportunities 1h 30mSpeaker: all
-
09:00
-
09:00
→
10:30
NAWG meeting: Session 5 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
-
09:00
CCQM-P231: Species specific meat composition determination of DNA extracted from meat 1h 30m
Overview of Pilot background, protocol samples & aims
Results summary & draft report/publication discussion
– Material 1
– Material 2
Update on study
5 minute participant presentation of results & MU calculations (reporting slides can be found here https://bit.ly/3ArlmOF )Speaker: TÜBITAK
-
09:00
-
09:00
→
10:30
PAWG meeting: 1st Session – scientific presentations Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
-
09:00
Discovery of pharmabiotics from human gut microbiome 30mSpeaker: D. Kang (KRISS)
-
09:30
Absolute quantification of active protein by SPR and digital ELISA 30mSpeaker: L. Wu (NIM)
-
10:00
Structure related measurements 30mSpeaker: M. Ryadnov (NPL)
-
09:00
-
10:30
→
11:00
Coffee Break 30m
-
11:00
→
12:30
CAWG meeting: Session 4 Room 305 (Observatorium)
Room 305
Observatorium
-
11:00
2) Review of CAWG Strategic plan and National needs identified at last meeting; prioritization of cell metrology opportunities 1h 30mSpeaker: all
-
11:00
-
11:00
→
12:30
NAWG meeting: Session 6 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
-
11:00
CCQM-P231: continued 30m
5 minute participant presentation of results & MU calculations (reporting slides can be found here https://bit.ly/3ArlmOF)
Speaker: TÜBITAK -
11:30
CCQM-K86.d DNA Ratio in a High Protein Matrix 30m
Update on Draft. KCRV, DOE and CMC claims
Speakers: NIMT, TÜBITAK -
12:00
P232 Fire drill 30m
Update on study report
Speakers: NIST, NML@LGC
-
11:00
-
11:00
→
12:30
PAWG meeting: 2nd Session - scientific presentations and digitalisation Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
-
11:00
Characterization and Quantification of Monoclonal Antibodies by IDMS and ES-DMA-CPC 30mSpeaker: W. Mi (NIM)
-
11:30
Use of the digital expert 45mSpeaker: D. Hutzschenreuther (PTB)
-
12:15
Digitalization experience in protein measurement in NIM 15mSpeaker: L. Wu (NIM)
-
11:00
-
12:30
→
13:30
Lunch Break 1h
-
13:30
→
15:30
CAWG meeting: Session 5 Room 305 (Observatorium)
Room 305
Observatorium
-
13:30
3) Agreement on Next steps; Wrap-up 2hSpeaker: all
-
13:30
-
13:30
→
15:00
NAWG meeting: Session 7 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
-
13:30
Potential topics/Planned activities KCs/pilots 1h 30m
Planned studies measuring bacterial nucleic acids
ctDNA SNV KC
eDNA
SOGAT, sequencing activities
ISO/CLSI updateSpeakers: KRISS, NIB
-
13:30
-
13:30
→
15:00
PAWG meeting: 3rd Session - strategy Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
-
13:30
Strategy 30mSpeakers: Claudia Swart (PTB), all
-
14:00
CMC Guidelines 30mSpeakers: Claudia Swart (PTB), all
-
14:30
Uncertainty evaluation issues 30mSpeakers: L. Wu (NIM), all
-
13:30
-
15:00
→
15:30
Coffee Break 30m
-
15:30
→
16:30
NAWG meeting: Session 8 Room 105 (Anna-von Helmholtz Bau )
Room 105
Anna-von Helmholtz Bau
-
15:30
Wrap up 1h
Review GANTT chart chart timelines
Strategy document/RMO questionnaire
Future meetings, workshops, etc.
Review actions
AOBSpeaker: all
-
15:30
-
15:30
→
16:45
PAWG meeting: 4th Session - planning and other issues Room 510 (Werner-von-Siemens Bau)
Room 510
Werner-von-Siemens Bau
Meeting of the PAWG
-
15:30
Planning of upcoming workshops 30mSpeaker: all
-
16:00
Update of VAMAS projects 15mSpeaker: M. Ryadnov (NPL)
-
16:15
Update of regional and NMIs’ metrology activities (ACRM,APMP......) 15mSpeaker: all
-
16:30
Other issues, wrap up and closing of the meeting 15mSpeaker: Claudia Swart (Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt)
-
15:30
-
17:00
→
18:00
Transfer to the conference dinner venue: Transfer to the confernce dinner venue by public transport
-
19:00
→
22:00
Conference Dinner: Boat trip
-
09:00
→
10:30
-
-
09:00
→
10:30
Joint meeting of the bioanalysis working groups: Session 1 Observatorium (Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau)
Observatorium
Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau
-
09:00
Introductions (‘tour de table’ for those present, with online participants providing name and institution in the chat box). Agree agenda 30mSpeaker: WG Chairs
-
09:30
CAWG Update 1hSpeaker: Julian Braybrook (NML@LGC)
-
09:00
-
10:30
→
11:00
Coffee Break 30m
-
11:00
→
12:30
Joint meeting of the bioanalysis working groups: Session 2 Observatorium (Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau)
Observatorium
Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau
-
11:00
NAWG Update 45mSpeaker: Jim Huggett (NML@LGC)
-
11:45
PAWG Update 45mSpeaker: Claudia Swart (Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt)
-
11:00
-
12:30
→
13:30
Lunch Break 1h
-
13:30
→
15:00
Joint meeting of the bioanalysis working groups: Session 3 Observatorium (Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau)
Observatorium
Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau
-
13:30
Joint workshops 30mSpeaker: Claudia Swart (Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt)
-
14:00
WG support for RMOs, wider RMO interaction, Questionnaire 30mSpeaker: Mojca Milavec (NIB)
-
14:30
SOGATS (WHO comparisons) 30mSpeaker: Jim Huggett (NML@LGC)
-
13:30
-
15:00
→
15:30
Coffee Break 30m
-
15:30
→
17:30
Joint meeting of the bioanalysis working groups: Session 4 Observatorium (Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau)
Observatorium
Hermann-von-Helmholtz Bau
-
15:30
Fire-drill update and wider pandemic TG 25mSpeaker: Julian Braybrook (NML@LGC)
-
15:55
Task group on units for bioanalysis 25mSpeaker: Jim Huggett (NML@LGC)
-
16:20
CCQM Task Group on Food Measurement 30m
-
16:50
CCQM activities on Digital and FAIR Chemical and Biological Reference Data and Certificates: Challenges and Opportunities 20mSpeaker: Robert Wielgosz (BIPM)
-
17:10
Wrap up 20mSpeaker: WG Chairs
-
15:30
-
09:00
→
10:30
-
-
09:00
→
09:15
Welcome: Welcome addressConvener: Prof. Dr. Tobias Schäffter (Head of PTB Berlin Institute)
-
09:15
→
11:15
Workshop "Towards standardized pathogen measurements": Session 1 Lecture Hall (Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau)
Lecture Hall
Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau
Convener: Dr Esmeralda Valiente (PTB)-
09:15
Quality assurance and standardization in molecular diagnostics of infections - Results from international IFCC surveys 45mSpeaker: Prof. Dr. Parviz Ahmad-Nejad (Helios Universitätsklinikum Wuppertal)
-
10:00
Ensuring accuracy in the development and application of bioanalytical diagnostic tests for infectious disease 25mSpeaker: Dr Jim Huggett (NML@LGC)
-
10:25
Coffee break 25m
-
10:50
Antimicrobial susceptibility testing of veterinary pathogen bacteria: possibility and needs 25mSpeaker: Dr Heike Kaspar (BVL)
-
09:15
-
11:15
→
12:55
Workshop "Towards standardized pathogen measurements": Session 2 Lecture Hall (Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau)
Lecture Hall
Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau
Convener: Dr Megan Cleveland (NIST)-
11:15
Protein reference material development for increased confidence in COVID-19 testing 25mSpeaker: Dr Bradley Stocks (NRC)
-
11:40
Advanced molecular diagnostics for the detection of high risk pathogens: exploring new technologies for scalable, rapid, on-site pathogen detection 25mSpeaker: Dr Andreas Puyskens (RKI)
-
12:05
Boosting Accuracy in Viral Load measurements with a Powerful Duo: Isotope Dilution Mass Spectrometry and Digital Droplet PCR 25mSpeaker: Yan Yan Beer (PTB)
-
12:30
Standardisation of Genome Amplification Techniques (SoGAT): current challenges in harmonising measurement for NAT based diagnostics 25m
online
Speaker: Dr Neil Almond (MHRA)
-
11:15
-
12:55
→
13:40
Lunch break 45m
-
13:40
→
15:20
Workshop "Towards standardized pathogen measurements": Session 3 Lecture Hall (Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau)
Lecture Hall
Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau
Convener: Dr Bradley Stocks (NRC)-
13:40
Challenges in standardized pathogen identification and quantification in patient samples 25mSpeaker: Prof. Dr. Udo Reischl (INSTAND)
-
14:05
The challenges in preparation of control materials for small inter-laboratory comparisons: case studies of MPXV and Listeria monocytogenes 25mSpeaker: Dr Alexandra Bogožalec Košir (NIB)
-
14:30
Reliable quantification of control samples for the virus genome detection to assess laboratory performance in EQA schemes 25mSpeaker: Dr Annemarie Martin (GDB)
-
14:55
Synthetic Nucleic Acids as Reference Materials for Emerging Viruses 25mSpeaker: Dr Megan Cleveland (NIST)
-
13:40
-
15:20
→
15:45
Workshop "Towards standardized pathogen measurements": Final discussion Lecture Hall (Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau)
Lecture Hall
Hermann-von Helmholtz Bau
-
09:00
→
09:15
-
-
08:30
→
12:30
Technical tour: Transfer from PTB Charlottenburg and Visit at BAM and Beamline in Adlershof Berlin Adlershof
Berlin Adlershof
Abfahrt 8:30h ab PTB Berlin CharlottenburgConvener: Rudolf Schneider-
08:30
Departure at PTB Berlin Charlottenburg, Bus transfer to Adlershof 1h 30m
Luggage can be stored at BAM
-
10:00
Visit to BAM labs: Protein Analysis, Immunoanalysis/Molecular Biology, Biophotonics, Chemical and Optical Sensing 1h
-
11:00
Visit to BESSY II Electron Storage Ring, PTB beamline, BAM line and Metrology Light Source (PTB) 1h 30m
-
08:30
-
12:30
→
13:30
Lunch break 1h Berlin Adlershof
Berlin Adlershof
Lunch buffet at BAM
-
08:30
→
12:30